# Episode 29: Five Questions with Jamie Sawyer + the Out of Hand Tarot

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Podcast: [The Tarot Podcast with T. Susan Chang](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-tarot-podcast-with-t-susan-chang-7335795)
Published: 2025-12-17T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://thetarotpodcast.podbean.com/e/episode-29-five-questions-with-jamie-sawyer-the-out-of-hand-tarot/
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Duration seconds: 1574

## Resource

Join host T. Susan and artist Jamie Sawyer as we explore the bold lines and sly wit of the ”Out of Hand” Tarot!

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