# 448: ‘Twins Named John’, With Stephen Hackett

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2026-06-01T02:42:46+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2026/05/31/ep-448
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Duration seconds: 6654

## Resource

Stephen Hackett returns to the show to help me make sense of a problem that is hard even to describe, let alone solve, regarding Apple One, family sharing, a separate Media & Purchasing account, and iCloud storage space. Also: what we're expecting from WWDC 2026.

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