# 439: ‘A Mitigated Disaster’, With Daniel Jalkut

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2026-01-27T00:25:01+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2026/01/26/ep-439
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Duration seconds: 7141

## Resource

Daniel Jalkut returns to the show so we can both vent about MacOS 26 Tahoe.

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