# 437: ‘A Naughty Citizen’, With Quinn Nelson

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2025-12-24T23:36:43+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2025/12/24/ep-437
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Duration seconds: 8932

## Resource

Special guest Quinn Nelson returns for a two-part holiday spectacular: the iPad in the wake of iPadOS 26, and Apple's executive changes as Tim Cook seemingly nears the end of his time as CEO.

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