# 436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2025-11-30T23:12:30+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2025/11/30/ep-436
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Duration seconds: 5752

## Resource

Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations.

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