# 431: ‘Iconic Pig Lipstick’, With John Moltz

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2025-10-01T02:58:04+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2025/09/30/ep-431
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Duration seconds: 4384

## Resource

John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 17 lineup: the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max, iPhone 17, and the no-number iPhone Air. Not one word about baseball, but some *Star Wars* talk may or may not have snuck in.

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