# 425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller

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Podcast: [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-talk-show-with-john-gruber-388809)
Published: 2025-06-27T01:06:48+00:00
Episode link: https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2025/06/26/ep-425
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Duration seconds: 6242

## Resource

Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025.

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