# John Leganski's "Glory, Grief & The Gavel" and Handling Tight Margins in the House

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Podcast: [The Takeout with Major Garrett](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827)
Published: 2026-06-23T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Major had a wide-ranging interview with John Leganski, Deputy Chief of Staff to Fmr. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Leganski's new book, "Glory, Grief & The Gavel", chronicles the multiple rounds that led to McCarthy's rise as third in line to the President and, ultimately, what led to his fall, through the motion to vacate. 

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