# Extended Interview: Ben Rhodes

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Podcast: [The Takeout with Major Garrett](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827)
Published: 2026-05-28T04:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

In a compelling interview with Major, Ben Rhodes reflects on his upcoming book, “All We Say”, which tells the history of 15 speeches that define America 250 years after its founding. Rhodes, who served as Deputy National Security Advisor to President Barack Obama, shared his thoughts on the Iran war, why he thinks the Obama White House “did get right” the 2015 nuclear deal, and the state of the Democratic Party as it faces backlash over the handling of the 2024 election autopsy release. From Martin Luther King’s "I have a dream" speech to right- and left-wing populism in America, Rhodes gives his first-hand account to Major and how the nation prepares to celebrate 250 years of independence under the presidency of Trump.

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