# Anita McBride on the Importance of Founding First Ladies [Extended Interview] Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827/anita-mcbride-on-the-importance-of-founding-first-ladies-extended-interview Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827/anita-mcbride-on-the-importance-of-founding-first-ladies-extended-interview.md Podcast: [The Takeout with Major Garrett](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827) Published: 2026-04-25T04:01:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/CAD9724385231.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/CAD9724385231.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827/episodes/anita-mcbride-on-the-importance-of-founding-first-ladies-extended-interview Duration seconds: 953 ## Resource Major speaks with Anita McBride, the former Chief of Staff to First Lady Laura Bush, about the role First Ladies have played in early presidential tenures. McBride, who’s also the co-chair of the InPursuit essay series, responds to the pieces of Abigail Adams and Dolly Madison garnered 10-15% more interest than that of the Presidents profiled. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827/episodes/anita-mcbride-on-the-importance-of-founding-first-ladies-extended-interview/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-takeout-with-major-garrett-689827/anita-mcbride-on-the-importance-of-founding-first-ladies-extended-interview.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.