# 448 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - How to Integrate Faith, Family, and Nation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation.md Podcast: [The Symbolic World](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216) Published: 2026-04-29T12:11:31+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation--71706392 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71706392/2026_04_fr_josiah_trenham_summit_interview_final_27apr2026_12pm_01.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-symbolic-world-1141216/episodes/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation Duration seconds: 1896 ## Resource I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham to talk about something that’s becoming harder to ignore: how to properly order your loyalties. We discussed the tension between faith, nation, family, and personal identity, and what happens when those come into conflict. Join us at the Symbolic World Summit, where Fr. Josiah will be one of the keynote speakers. May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/Ugt7XnbH0tQ πŸ”“ Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe πŸ’» Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com πŸ”— Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast: -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-symbolic-world-1141216/episodes/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.