# Skeptic mathematician Gil Kalai from Reichman University and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem

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Podcast: [The Superposition Guy's Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-superposition-guy-s-podcast-5687613)
Published: 2026-04-06T12:51:38+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/superpositionguy/episodes/Skeptic-mathematician-Gil-Kalai-from-Reichman-University-and-the-Hebrew-University-of-Jerusalem-e3heont
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Yuval Boger interviews mathematician Gil Kalai about his long-standing skepticism regarding scalable quantum computing. Kalai explains two main arguments behind his theory: correlated noise that may defeat quantum error correction and complexity-based limits on NISQ devices achieving quantum supremacy. They discuss experimental claims such as Google’s 2019 result, potential tests of Kalai’s conjectures, and the implications for the future of quantum research. The conversation also explores how Kalai hopes the community will evaluate bold claims and what scientific insights could emerge regardless of the outcome.

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