# The Hidden Costs of "Improving" This Minnesota Highway

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Podcast: [The Strong Towns Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821)
Published: 2025-12-15T18:33:46+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.strongtowns.org/e/the-hidden-costs-of-improving-this-minnesota-highway/
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## Resource

‍A major highway project is pitched as a safety upgrade — but at what cost to the community? Today, Chuck is joined by Matt Steele, a fellow Brainerd-area resident and longtime Strong Towns member. They unpack a highway interchange that's been proposed in nearby Baxter and the long-term trade-offs that shape strong (or fragile) places. Additional Show Notes Read more about this project: "Six Roundabouts to Nowhere" by Charles Marohn Chuck Marohn (Substack) This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Click here to learn more about membership.

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