# We Will Fight on Forever: Delivering Packets of Hope with Jill Chalsty

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Podcast: [The Story of Us: From Cosmic Dawn to the Depths of Being](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-story-of-us-from-cosmic-dawn-to-the-depths-of-being-7374324)
Published: 2026-03-15T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What happens when the hardest moments of life become the seed for a lifelong mission? In this episode of The Story of Us , Jeff Ellison sits down with Jill Chalsty , founder of the global life-skills initiative Overcoming Obstacles and author of Packets of Hope . Jill shares the remarkable journey that began with childhood bullying and evolved into a curriculum that has reached over 180 million students in nearly 200 countries . Her story takes a powerful turn after the loss of her husband and her own battles with cancer. Facing grief and uncertainty, Jill embarked on a 107-day voyage across the globe—hand-delivering “packets of hope” to ministers of education in dozens of countries, spreading a message about life skills, resilience, and purpose. This conversation explores bullying, forgiveness, grief, courage, and the profound power of human connection. It’s a story about turning pain into purpose—and why one small step can change the course of a life. What We Discuss in This Episode How childhood bullying shaped Jill’s life mission The unexpected apology that sparked a global education movement Building the Overcoming Obstacles life-skills curriculum Teaching decision-making, empathy, and resilience to students worldwide Jill’s work with gang members alongside NFL legend Jim Brown Grief, caregiving, and facing multiple cancer diagnoses A 107-day world voyage delivering “packets of hope” to education leaders Why purpose and connection are essential for healing The Maori phrase “Ake Ake Ake” —and how it became Jill’s mantra for resilience Why small steps can transform even the darkest seasons of life Memorable Moments A childhood bully apologizes years later—and changes the trajectory of Jill’s life. Teaching life skills to gang members in Los Angeles alongside Jim Bro…

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