# The Democratic Trump? AOC shapes up to take on JD Vance

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Podcast: [The State of It: USA](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-usa-7668165)
Published: 2026-02-18T17:58:13+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-state-of-it-usa/episodes/why-are-the-republicans-so-obsessed-with-aoc
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With the media spotlight on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom, Gerry asks if we should be looking instead at the outsiders to become the next Democratic candidate for the US presidential election in 2028. Is the Dallas Mavericks's owner Mark Cuban a dark horse? And is Stephen A. Smith a brighter, funnier Gary Lineker? Hosts: Katy Balls, Washington editor and columnist at The Times and The Sunday Times Gerard Baker, columnist at The Times and editor at large at The Wall Street Journal Producer: Euan Dawtrey Executive producer: Dan Box Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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