# Ukraine extra: burner phones and lost children Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children.md Podcast: [The State of It](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105) Published: 2026-02-26T14:18:14+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/times-daily-world-briefing/episodes/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/times-daily-world-briefing/e/699ee65e7156d5087400c11b/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-state-of-it-5218105/episodes/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children Duration seconds: 932 ## Resource Join Caroline as she visits Ukraine on the fourth anniversary of Russia's invasion. Burner phones to make sure the Russians don't track them as they travel in on a train called the Bravery Express. A meeting with the first lady, and with a woman who was captured and held in a forced labour camp. Kyiv is a busy, modern city where some residents have to find tents to get heating and electricity. Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times Producer: Euan Dawtrey Executive producer: Molly Guinness Picture credit: Getty Images Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe  here . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-state-of-it-5218105/episodes/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105/ukraine-extra-burner-phones-and-lost-children.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.