# ‘Without a border, we’re not a country’ | Zia Yusuf

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Podcast: [The spiked podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-spiked-podcast-1052435)
Published: 2026-06-29T16:07:00+00:00
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## Resource

Zia Yusuf – Reform UK’s home-affairs spokesperson – made a surprise appearance at the inaugural spiked summit on Saturday. He spoke to spiked editor Tom Slater about how the establishment will seek to frustrate a Reform government, the half-a-trillion-pound cost of mass migration, and the uselessness of Britain’s ruling class. Become a spiked supporter to get discounted tickets to our events, access all of spiked’s exclusive content, and get unlimited, ad-free reading and other perks: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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