# Dr. Robert (Bob)Zubrin Presents on The Space Show on Artemis II, NASA, Moon, Mars and much much more!

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Podcast: [The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-space-show-by-dr-david-livingston-1065418)
Published: 2026-04-16T21:09:43+00:00
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The Space Show featured a discussion with Dr. Robert Zubrin about NASA’s Artemis program and Mars exploration plans. Dr. Zubrin criticized the current Artemis architecture as incoherent, comparing it unfavorably to Apollo’s purpose-driven approach, and proposed a “Starship plus Starboat” configuration for both lunar and Mars missions. He expressed concern about proposed cuts to NASA’s space science program and criticized NASA Administrator Isaacman for supporting these reductions despite earlier opposition. The discussion covered technical aspects of mission architectures, including the challenges with Starship’s payload capacity and the potential for one-way cargo delivery to Mars. Dr. Zubrin also mentioned the Mars Technology Institute’s efforts to develop technologies needed for Mars settlement, rather than just travel. The meeting focused on discussing NASA’s space science program and the Artemis mission. Bob Zubrin highlighted concerns about a second attempt by the Trump administration to significantly cut the NASA Space Science Program, which he characterized as a destructive effort rather than just negotiation tactics. Robert discussed NASA’s recent progress with the Artemis program, comparing it to the Apollo 8 mission. He explained that while the current flight was less ambitious than Apollo 8, the Artemis program lacks a coherent mission architecture due to its reliance on five independent programs and systems that do not fit together. Robert highlighted specific issues with the SLS rocket and Orion capsule, noting their inability to support lunar missions as intended, and explained SpaceX’s proposed solution using Starship, which would require 14 launches for a complete mission to the moon and back. Special thanks to our sponsors: American Institute of Aeron…

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