# The Power of Relationship-Based Impact Measurement With Sonja Schappert-Howden

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Podcast: [The Social Impact Solutions Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-social-impact-solutions-podcast-7134873)
Published: 2026-05-12T11:00:01+00:00
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## Resource

On this episode of the Social Impact Solutions Podcast, Lauren Vanderpool and Sonja Schappert-Howden dive deep into the art of measuring impact in relationship-driven nonprofit work. Discover how theories of change can be adapted to capture the nuanced, transformative power of relational and faith-based approaches. This episode uncovers practical strategies to overcome the challenges of evaluating relational impact and hear inspiring examples of organizations that have successfully navigated this complex landscape. This conversation is a must listen for anyone looking to foster meaningful change through the power of relationships in their nonprofit work. Episode Resources: https://www.seedimpact.org/ https://www.socialimpactsolutions.com/ Episode Chapters: - 00:00 Introduction and Background - 07:21 Challenges in Relationship-Based Programs - 13:14 Relational Cultural Theory and Transformation - 18:28 Impact Measurement and Transformation Relationships - 24:21 Navigating Stakeholder Engagement - 30:01 Successful Implementation Examples - 33:38 First Steps for Nonprofit Leaders

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