# The Socceroos and USMNT: Can Diverse National Teams Drive Social Change?

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Podcast: [The Soccernomics Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-soccernomics-podcast-7869249)
Published: 2026-06-16T05:33:34+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-soccernomics-podcast/episodes/The-Socceroos-and-USMNT-Can-Diverse-National-Teams-Drive-Social-Change-e3krkgq
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## Resource

In our first episode since the World Cup we discuss some of the surprise results so far, and highlight the great start for the Socceroos and their young star, Nestory Irankunda - who like two of his teammates - was born in a refugee camp in Africa before he and his family were granted asylum in Australia. We debate whether the success of multicultural teams like the Socceroos and the US can change attitudes around immigration in their countries.

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