# #320: The Space Between Us Is Alive... Trust It

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Podcast: [The Simplicity Parenting Podcast with Kim John Payne](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-simplicity-parenting-podcast-with-kim-john-payne-485010)
Published: 2026-07-01T14:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.simplicityparenting.com/podcasts/the-simplicity-parenting-podcast-with-kim-john-payne/episodes/2149225761
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Duration seconds: 624

## Resource

In this episode, Kim John Payne reflects on something elusive but essential: the space between parent and child. He describes this space as being alive, not a void to be filled with words or busyness, but a conduit through which care, love, and presence flow. When we're in sync with a child, there's a current moving between us, sometimes calm and easy, sometimes turbulent, but always communicating something. Kim explains that children's mirror neurons are constantly registering what we do and feel, even when nothing visible is happening. A child watching us wash dishes is already inwardly participating. Mirror neuron clusters around the emotional centers of the brain mean our sadness, joy, or calm radiates outward and is received through this space. If we can relax into this wordless flow rather than filling every moment with activity or instruction, life begins to simplify. Kim encourages parents to recover spaces of "just being," starting with car rides without devices. When a child says "I'm bored," we can simply be present with quiet care rather than rushing to fix it. The more we trust this space, the more children learn to decompress and stop filling silence with noise. Modern society sends an unspoken message that we should always be talking, always doing. But trusting that the space between us is alive is healthy for our nervous systems, healthy for our children's nervous systems, and most of all, healthy for our connection.

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