# #281: Interview with Richard Freed - Part Three

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Podcast: [The Simplicity Parenting Podcast with Kim John Payne](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-simplicity-parenting-podcast-with-kim-john-payne-485010)
Published: 2025-09-24T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.simplicityparenting.com/podcasts/the-simplicity-parenting-podcast-with-kim-john-payne/episodes/2149084045
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In the final part of their conversation, Kim and Dr. Freed shift from exposing the harms of persuasive technology to offering practical solutions. Kim introduces the idea of “four connections” as a foundation for a healthy childhood: connection to nature, to friends through real play, to family, and to one’s inner self. Dr. Freed emphasizes the importance of building community among parents and resisting screen culture together. They highlight resources like Kids, Brains, and Screens by Melanie Hempe and Reset Your Child’s Brain by Dr. Victoria Dunckley, as tools to help families go low or no screen. The episode includes inspiring examples of families replacing screen time with rituals like Friday family nights and creative play. Dr. Freed shares personal stories about parenting without screens and the long-term benefits he has seen in his daughters. The conversation ends with hope and encouragement: that raising children in a humanized, connected environment not only helps them thrive but also fosters qualities that others naturally seek out—empathy, presence, and resilience. ❤️  Support the Podcast 📑   Simplicity Parenting Starter Kit 📲   Request a Consultation with Kim John Payne 📚   Simplicity Parenting Book Store

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