# Ep. 73 - Ben Tasker: Living in the AI Between Times

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Podcast: [The Signal](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-signal-7024065)
Published: 2026-02-06T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://edtechconnect.castos.com/episodes/ben-tasker-living-in-the-ai-between-times
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Ben Tasker, an expert in AI, workforce readiness and skills-based learning, shares his unique journey from higher education to industry, exploring how AI is reshaping learning and work during what he calls the "AI between times"—a transitional era of rapid change and "uh-oh moments." They dive into why AI amplifies human capability rather than replacing it, how institutions can ethically integrate AI, and the urgent need to shift from time-based degrees to skills-based outcomes. Whether you're in higher ed, corporate training, or just thinking about the future of learning, this conversation offers actionable insights and a hopeful vision for an AI-enabled, accessible, and human-centered education system. Key Takeaways We’re in the "AI Between Times": A transitional period where AI is rapidly evolving, but the full "AI future economy" hasn’t arrived. This phase will include both breakthroughs and "uh-oh moments," like failed automation and deepfake risks. AI Amplifies, Doesn’t Replace: Companies that lay off staff for AI often hire them back (and more) when point solutions fail. Successful organizations combine AI adoption with upskilling, leading to 52% higher profitability. Shift from Time-Based to Skills-Based Learning: Traditional degree timelines are too slow for AI-paced change. Microcredentials, project-based learning, and skills validation are becoming critical for workforce readiness. Embed AI Responsibly & Early: Ethical AI and governance should be established before implementation. This includes transparency, accountability, fairness, and cross-functional steering committees to mitigate risks. AI in Education: Risk & Opportunity: While AI poses risks (e.g., student over-reliance, misinformation), embedding AI tools into learning platforms can accelerate learn…

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