# EP 547 New "Captivated Health" Book - with Mark Gaunya

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Podcast: [The ShiftShapers Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968)
Published: 2026-05-05T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2047

## Resource

We talk with Mark Gaunya about why employer health insurance often feels like a casino where the house wins and how employers can flip the odds with transparency, ownership, and smarter plan design. We break down how captive risk sharing works, what it takes to implement, and the real financial and employee-experience wins that come from getting off the less bad renewal hamster wheel. • Why the US healthcare system “works” as designed for rulemakers, not end users • How the ...

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