# EP 546 Well-Being That Actually Cuts Costs - with Ashley Rutkowski

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Podcast: [The ShiftShapers Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968)
Published: 2026-04-28T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1298

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We challenge the old wellness playbook and show how coaching, claims integration, and clinical guardrails turn behavior change into measurable cost control. GLP-1s, chronic condition priorities, and realistic timelines come together in a system that bends trajectories instead of chasing fads. • why awareness and incentives fail without habit formation • building coaching into chronic care to shift daily decisions • measuring ROI with leading indicators and claims trends • onboarding with cla...

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