# EP 544 Healthcare Costs Keep Rising Because Prices Stay Invisible - with Katy Talento

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Podcast: [The ShiftShapers Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968)
Published: 2026-04-14T10:00:00+00:00
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Healthcare stays expensive because the system hides prices and quality from the people paying for care, especially employers. We talk with Katie Talento about how CAA 2026 transparency and Department of Labor fiduciary rules could expose PBM practices, reshape contracting, and give plan sponsors real leverage if enforcement follows. • Why invisible prices and invisible quality break the healthcare market • How incentives and lobbying protect opacity across hospitals, PBMs, insurers and...

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