# Creating Conditions for Change: Lessons from Five Moments of Shift

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Podcast: [The Shift](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shift-6705493)
Published: 2025-10-10T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://the-shift-with-trisha-carter.captivate.fm/episode/creating-conditions-for-change-lessons-from-five-moments-of-shift
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## Resource

In this episode, Trisha reviews five powerful transformation stories to uncover what practitioners can learn about creating conditions for genuine perspective shifts. What if we stopped trying to teach people into transformation and instead learned to cultivate the conditions where change becomes inevitable? Through stories of systemic awakening, identity work, and unexpected wisdom from a 10-year-old, this episode explores how dissonance, experience, and reflection intersect to create profound shifts—not just in thinking, but in being. For intercultural trainers, coaches, and CQ facilitators, the insights here challenge conventional approaches: brave spaces over safe spaces, productive discomfort over protection, sustained journeys over quick fixes. Discover why the most powerful shifts often can't be taught—only witnessed and supported. The episode revisits conversations with Dr. Kristal Walker, Andrew Sykes, Amel Derragui, Dr. Hanlie Van Wyk, and Jerry Jones, drawing practical lessons for anyone working to help others expand their cultural intelligence and capacity for perspective-taking. Make sure you join Trisha in this journey of growth and discovery throughout the year via Substack or  LinkedIn. Amel Derragui - From School Canteens to Global Communities Andrew Sykes - Building Trust, Floor by Floor Dr. Kristal Walker - Building Authenticity and Cultural Intelligence Together Jerry Jones - Helping Teams Get Unstuck Through Human Connection Hanlie van Wyk - Reasonable Revolutionaries and Human Eco-Cultures Quinton Pretorius - Shifts Through Experiential Learning

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