# Methods of Healing vs the Magic of Healing: Shamans Cave

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Podcast: [The Shamans Cave](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shamans-cave-1155608)
Published: 2025-09-03T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Renee and Sandra take on a very potent topic about healing. Many shamanic practitioners today are stuck in the illusion that it is the methods of healing that people turn to shamanism today. But in reality, methods have never healed anyone. Shamans have used “methods” as a way to demonstrate that she/he is performing a healing. But the true work that creates the healing is the energetic forces swirling around the client. When the shamanic practitioner creates sacred space, sings, dances, and...

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