# Science and Faith: Conflict or False Divide?

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Podcast: [The Séance](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-s-ance-5669290)
Published: 2026-05-31T00:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Are science and faith truly at odds—or has the conflict been overstated, misunderstood, or misrepresented altogether? In this episode, we examine whether modern science actually undermines belief in God, or whether it quietly points toward deeper metaphysical truths that materialism cannot explain. Joining the conversation is Doug Ell , author of Counting to God , a former atheist who spent more than three decades rigorously examining science, mathematics, and philosophy before concluding that belief in God is not only reasonable—but rational. A former MIT double major in mathematics and physics, Ell brings a rare combination of scientific training, legal reasoning, and independent scholarship to one of the most emotionally charged discussions of our time. To learn more about this guest and explore the full conversation, watch the broadcast on our official YouTube® Channel . Stay connected by subscribing to our FREE Email Newsletter and access additional content, episodes, and updates at www.consciousradionetwork.com . VO by: Vesta Millard \ Lead-in Music & Station ID by: Logan Belle BG Music: The Rise by Scott Buckley: https://www.scottbuckley.com.au Music provided by : EMW - https://bit.ly/YouTubeEMW DISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest(s) and do not necessarily reflect those of Conscious Radio Network™. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as medical, legal, or professional advice. © 2015–2026 Conscious Radio Network, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Podcast produced by Conscious Radio Network™

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