# The Scientific Evidence That People Can Change Their Sexual Orientation | Father Paul Sullins on Catholic Connection

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Podcast: [The Ruth Institute Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ruth-institute-podcast-6394419)
Published: 2026-05-06T19:59:00+00:00
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## Resource

This episode dives into recent legal battles, including the Supreme Court's landmark decision affirming therapists' right to help clients reconcile their feelings with their faith. We explore the dangerous parallels to other cultural issues like abortion and transgender rights, revealing how the push to silence dissent is less about science and more about imposing a restrictive moral order. Father Sullins discusses studies demonstrating that those who undergo efforts to diminish unwanted attractions often experience psychological benefits, including reduced suicidality, contrary to mainstream claims. You'll discover: how scientific data, from reputable studies by Diamond, Spitzer, and others, proves that change is possible and common; the real history of how therapy for unwanted same-sex attraction was eliminated from mental health guidelines; and how current laws threaten the freedom of religious and mental health professionals to serve their clients ethically. This is essential listening for anyone concerned about the growing suppression of what science and morality actually say about human sexuality—and why preserving the right to help those who want it is a moral imperative.

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