# E44: Alex Hutchinson | Seek Big Challenges for Bigger Gains in Running and Life

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Podcast: [The RUNEGADE Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-runegade-podcast-6717046)
Published: 2025-10-17T09:01:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/therunegadepodcast/episodes/E44-Alex-Hutchinson--Seek-Big-Challenges-for-Bigger-Gains-in-Running-and-Life-e39e6h7
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Duration seconds: 3510

## Resource

Welcome to The RUNEGADE Podcast. Each episode, we set off to explore the human connection with running and endurance sport, through conversation, big stories, guest interviews and our own experiences - we're your hosts Mark Prociw and Todd Marentette. Episode 44: Alex Hutchinson becomes a RUNEGADE. This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠ - Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out, level up your nutrition, and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order. "If you stick with running long enough, and you rack up a bunch of goals that you've achieved, you realize none of them was the ultimate destination you were looking for." - Alex Alex Hutchinson, Physicist, Journalist, New York Times bestseller, and a former Canadian national team middle-distance runner, returns for his third appearance. Alex recently released his second book The Explorer's Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors and the Blank Spots on the Map. We dive into the themes of exploration, the balance between exploring new challenges and exploiting known strengths. Alex shares insights on the genetic and environmental factors that influence our desire to explore, the importance of embracing struggle in both running and life, and the lessons learned from his journey as a runner and writer. We thank Alex for joining us, and helping us better understand how balancing exploring can unlock big gains in running and in life. Find more Alex: Alex's Website⁠ ​Alex on Threads: ⁠⁠⁠@sweat_science⁠⁠⁠ ​Alex on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@sweat_science⁠⁠⁠ ​Alex on X: ⁠⁠⁠@sweatscience⁠⁠ In a world of runners, be a RUNEGADE. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - check out our Linktree, as our Friends of the Podcast are offering great savings to RUNEGADE…

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