# Swarmer CEO on Building the “Microsoft of Drones”

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Podcast: [The Rundown](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rundown-6758831)
Published: 2026-04-19T15:35:30+00:00
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Swarmer ($SWMR) just had a successful IPO, skyrocketing 520% in its first day of trading. But its bigger ambition is to become the “Microsoft of drones.” Zaid sits down with U.S. CEO Alex Fink to break down the business behind drone warfare software, and how the company has put its tech to the test since first deploying it in Ukraine. They unpack the economics of the drone warfare stack, Swarmer’s latest financials, and why software is emerging as the key battleground. Plus, how much of this growth depends on active conflicts and what investors should be watching next.

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