# #369 Ten Years of RTN w/ Bob Crawford & Ben Sawyer

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Podcast: [The Road to Now](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-road-to-now-1065183)
Published: 2026-05-17T10:06:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rtnpod.me/369
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## Resource

May 18, 2026 marks exactly ten years since Bob Crawford and Ben Sawyer launched the first episode of The Road to Now , so we decided to get together for a conversation reflecting on our first conversation, the unexpected places the show has taken us, and what we've learned along the way. We are grateful to everyone who has taken the time to listen to this show, sat down with us for an interview, or shared kind words with someone else. When we recorded the first episode in the basement of Bridgestone arena, we didn't know where the show would lead us (or how to make a podcast), but after a decade of great conversations, live shows, and a humbling amount of support from listeners and guests, we're still going strong. And a special thanks to anyone who has supported us on Patreon- we couldn't have made this show what it is without your support. Here's to another ten years. -Ben & Bob This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher.

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