# EVERYONE WAS PULLING BACK. THEY DECIDED TO BUILD.

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Podcast: [The RJ Ledesma Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rj-ledesma-podcast-1290248)
Published: 2026-07-17T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

When the pandemic brought uncertainty to the real estate industry, most people were playing defense. Jonathan Caro and Alejandro "Andy" Manalac did the exact opposite. After decades of successful careers with some of the country's biggest real estate companies, they walked away from corporate life, bet on themselves, and launched Havitas—a boutique real estate company with one bold belief: F*CK ORDINARY. That philosophy isn't just a tagline. It's how they approach every project they build. From Aya Hills, overlooking the majestic Taal Volcano, to Hinabi in La Union, Havitas is reimagining what real estate can be—creating thoughtfully designed, income-yielding properties that are built to deliver both unforgettable experiences and long-term value. In this episode of The RJ Ledesma Podcast, we talk about what it really takes to leave the security of corporate life, build a business during one of the toughest periods in recent history, and challenge conventional thinking in an industry often resistant to change. If you're an entrepreneur, investor, or someone dreaming of building something extraordinary, this conversation is for you. 🎙️ Watch the full episode and discover why the biggest opportunities often belong to those who refuse to settle for ordinary. For any collaboration, brand partnership, and campaign run inquiries, e-mail us at info@thepodnetwork.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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