# The Report Card with Nat Malkus: Curriculum, Coherence, and Change (with John White)

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Published: 2026-07-30T00:53:07+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4496

## Resource

On this episode of The Report Card, Nat Malkus speaks with John White about state education leadership, how the education landscape has changed over the last few decades, innovation in education and where it tends to go wrong, the importance of school choice, the Southern Surge, why coherent systems matter, what we know about curriculum, […]

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