# 191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)

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Podcast: [The Rest Is Politics: Leading](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602)
Published: 2026-05-31T23:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4045

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Why is one of AI's most powerful insiders scared of what he's building? Who's really in charge of the technology reshaping our world? Is it too late for governments to regulate it? Rory and Matt Clifford are joined by Jack Clark, Co-Founder of Anthropic, to answer all these questions and more. __________ Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. __________ Instagram: ⁠@restispolitics⁠ Twitter: ⁠@restispolitics⁠ Email: ⁠therestispolitics@goalhanger.com⁠ __________ Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen General Manager: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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