# Episode 1308: Tori Kelly, Messi's Blessed Boots and Gen Z's Church Problem

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Podcast: [The RELEVANT Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-relevant-podcast-745325)
Published: 2026-07-07T14:33:47+00:00
Episode link: https://redcircle.com/shows/5b71cbdb-a590-4be1-bcf6-4af2e1c7bfc6/episodes/85a15fe8-cdb8-4ceb-97fd-d49d89073206
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Duration seconds: 3823

## Resource

This week, three-time Grammy winner Tori Kelly joins us to talk about her new album 'God Must Really Love Me,' written just weeks after she became a first-time mom. She tells us how it’s changed her approach to songwriting and her view of God. In RELEVANT Buzz, new research finds while Gen Z is the most church-engaged generation, it’s also the least likely to pray. What? We also take a lap around the World Cup's faith stories, and Forrest Frank now has the largest arena tour in the country. In Slices, Jesse tells us about a man who stole Smokey Bear signs and got arrested in the most humiliating way possible, and Derek has a Maryland guy who might have accidentally redefined Double Jeopardy. Plus, a report from 11 days of adventure in Alaska, a geography fact-off that spirals into pyramid conspiracies, and your feedback on childhood things that were secretly insane. Highlights: 00:00 — Intro: Thriving for 11 days in Alaska (unlike the Into the Wild guy) 22:11 — The great Alaska fact-off: rainforests vs. secret pyramids 24:18 — RELEVANT Buzz: Faith all over the World Cup — including Messi's blessed boots 34:28 — Gen Z is in church, so why aren't they praying? 39:45 — Forrest Frank has a top 5 tour in America 41:00 — Tori Kelly on new motherhood and 'God Must Really Love Me' 50:02 — Slices: The Smokey Bear sign heist 57:16 — The worst possible time to call the police 59:52 — Your feedback: Childhood things that were secretly insane 1:02:32 — This week's question: What could you win a competition in? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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