# Episode 4: "What's in the Way of Us Being Closer?" with Valerie Daniel

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Podcast: [The Relateful Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-relateful-podcast-7712314)
Published: 2026-03-25T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm
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Duration seconds: 1942

## Resource

In this episode Valerie Daniel , master coach, senior facilitator and managing director at The Relateful Company shares her journey from life as a corporate executive to discovering meditation, coaching and spiritual practices and eventually the practice of relational meditation. She also shares a powerful and intimate practice that she calls "What's in the way of us being closer?" and models it beautifully in the moment in connection with Philip.

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