# He Lived Through 1987, 2000, 2008 & COVID – He’s Most Concerned Now, Here’s Why Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633/he-lived-through-1987-2000-2008-covid-he-s-most-concerned-now-here-s-why Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633/he-lived-through-1987-2000-2008-covid-he-s-most-concerned-now-here-s-why.md Podcast: [The Real Story with Michelle Makori](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633) Published: 2026-06-19T17:12:49+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-good-podcast-co6/episodes/He-Lived-Through-1987--2000--2008--COVID--Hes-Most-Concerned-Now--Heres-Why-e3l11f1 Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/10ddc838c/podcast/play/121717665/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-19%2F426462080-44100-2-e913196ba984f.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633/episodes/he-lived-through-1987-2000-2008-covid-he-s-most-concerned-now-here-s-why Duration seconds: 3985 ## Resource Michelle Makori, President & Editor-in-Chief, Miles Franklin Media, sits down with Peter Grandich, Founder, PeterGrandich.com, to discuss why he is more concerned about the economy and financial markets today than at any other point in his 40-plus year career. Having lived through the 1987 crash, the dot-com bubble, the Global Financial Crisis, and the COVID market collapse, Grandich shares his outlook on what he calls the “greatest melt-up in history,” why he believes markets are displaying classic signs of a major top, and how growing debt, political division, and investor complacency could create serious challenges ahead. He also weighs in on Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh’s first meeting, the Fed’s sweeping review of its policies and communications, the implications for inflation and interest rates, and what a new Fed regime could mean for markets and gold. Grandich explains why he remains bullish on gold, silver, copper, and mining stocks, why he believes $10,000 gold is possible, and why he would rather own precious metals than broad U.S. equities at current valuations. You can sign up for our newsletter here: https://milesfranklin.com/sign-up/ Follow Michelle Makori on X: https://x.com/MichelleMakori Follow Miles Franklin Media on X: https://x.com/MilesFranklinCo Follow Peter Grandich on X: https://x.com/PeterGrandich Peter’s blog: https://petergrandich.com/about/ 👍 Like, 🔔 Subscribe, and Stay Informed Join Miles Franklin Media for expert interviews, market insights, and real-time coverage of gold, silver, Bitcoin, and global economics. Hit the bell to get notified the moment new content drops – don’t miss a move in the markets. ___________________ Miles Franklin: 📞 Call us: 1-952-929-7006 📧 Email us: info@milesfranklin.com 🔗 Website: https://milesfrankli… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633/episodes/he-lived-through-1987-2000-2008-covid-he-s-most-concerned-now-here-s-why/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-real-story-with-michelle-makori-7658633/he-lived-through-1987-2000-2008-covid-he-s-most-concerned-now-here-s-why.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.