# Episode 38: His Honorable Secretarial Highness, Dan Whitmarsh of the Oklahoma CLO

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Podcast: [The Real Deal Landman Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-real-deal-landman-show-7101489)
Published: 2026-04-24T17:13:21+00:00
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## Resource

The Real Deal Landman Show has welcomed many interesting and influential people, but this one includes actual royalty. Dan Whitmarsh is the current appointed Secretary of the Commissioners of the Land Office of Oklahoma. Yet, somehow, he found time to give Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson an education on Oklahoma state land ownership, revenue generation for schools, and the office’s interaction with energy companies. Secretary Whitmarsh offers insights into the complexities of the agency’s operations, the challenges of navigating legislative dynamics, and lesser-known facts and practices of the CLO that most people may never have heard of. Listen in to hear about the potential for public-private partnerships, his unique and insightful career background, and his vision for the agency’s legacy. Chapters 00:00 Unpredictable Oklahoma Weather 05:06 The Role of the Commission of the Land Office 12:09 The Land Office and State Land Ownership 17:17 Location of Schools on State Land 24:37 Agency Operations and Legislative Dynamics 33:33 Land Use and Revenue Allocation 41:31 Career Trajectory and Agency Legacy

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