# Episode 28: Empire Pro Wrestling with Colby Thelen and Drew Hopkins

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Published: 2025-10-01T10:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

The title isn’t clickbait. This is a legit episode about wrestling. This conversation was recorded live for a webinar with the Dallas-Fort Worth Association of Lease and Title Analysts. Host Jerris Johnson sits down in the OKC studio with his guests, local celebrity Colby Thelen and another guy we’ve seen before, Drew Hopkins. It goes against the norm of what this podcast usually discusses, but listen in for the lessons that have become familiar with this show. And a reminder that we’re never too old to start something new, especially if it will bring joy to us and others in our community. Our special thanks to PakEnergy ( https://pakenergy.com/ ) for sponsoring this episode. In addition to serving over 2300 customers with services and software, PakEnergy also promotes thought leadership discussions. Learn strategies and insights at https://pakenergy.com/resources from top experts in the energy industry, and while you’re there, schedule a free demo to explore PakEnergy’s offerings.

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