# 394: Eli Lilly's deal man, Allogene's off-the-shelf CAR-T, and Merck's Terns buy

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Podcast: [The Readout Loud](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-readout-loud-1134305)
Published: 2026-03-26T17:54:00+00:00
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On this week’s episode of "The Readout LOUD": Allison DeAngelis is still away, leaving Elaine Chen and Adam Feuerstein to mind the podcasting store. You've been warned. Eli Lilly’s deal man Jake van Naarden is very, very busy, so what does that mean for biotech and pharma? Speaking of deals, Merck is buying Terns for nearly $7 billion. Why are some people mad about it? You might be surprised to hear this, but off-the-shelf CAR-T therapies for cancer are still a thing. We preview an interesting data readout coming soon from Allogene Therapeutics. And finally, someone forgot to tell Wave Life Sciences that weight loss drugs are supposed to help people lose weight.

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