# Art as Protest - Small Business Owner Confronts Mass Deportation

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Podcast: [The Raid](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-raid-7569219)
Published: 2026-06-16T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

John Carlos Frey speaks with Stephen Sefton — industrial designer, philosopher, and founder of Third Coast Pillows — to explore how one small business owner is fighting back against America's deportation machine with art. When ICE raids intensified across the country — and two people were shot and killed in Minnesota — Stephen used his platform to respond. He designed a politically charged advertisement with a message about immigration enforcement: the who, what, when, and why of the tragedy in Minnesota. Stephen speaks candidly about why he felt morally obligated to act, how his background in philosophy shapes his view that government policy doesn't define ethics, and what he believes small businesses owe to the communities they serve. A powerful conversation about art as protest, courage in the face of silence, and what it means to refuse to look away. https://thirdcoastpillows.com/ https://theraidpodcast.org/ Disclaimer: The statements and opinions expressed by the host or participants on this program are solely their own and do not necessarily represent those of the distributor of the program and any person or entity affiliated with said distributor ("distributor's affiliates"). The distributor and distributor's affiliates are not responsible for, and shall not be liable for, the statements and opinions expressed by the host or participants, or for any content that appears on the program.

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