# Lloyd Austin on Ukraine, Iran and the lessons of war

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Podcast: [The Rachman Review](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rachman-review-1223434)
Published: 2026-05-07T04:00:00+00:00
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Gideon talks to Lloyd Austin, who served as US defence secretary under the Biden administration, about the need to adapt to new forms of warfare, accusations that he presided over a ‘woke military’ and how he headed off a nuclear threat from Russia in the early days of the Ukraine conflict. Clip: AP Free links to read more on this topic: US pauses ‘Project Freedom’ as Trump seeks way out of Hormuz impasse US warns Europe of delays to arms shipments as Iran war drains stockpiles Pentagon to pull 5,000 soldiers out of Germany in dispute over Iran war Donald Trump’s Iran war has cost $25bn, Pentagon says Our inaugural FT Weekend Festival in NYC is quickly approaching! Join John Lithgow, Orna Guralnik, Jancis Robinson and more on Saturday, June 20 at Spring Studios or online — as the FT Weekend comes to life for one unforgettable day. Register now and as a podcast listener save 10% off using our code  FTPodcast — this is the Saturday you won’t want to miss it. Subscribe to The Rachman Review wherever you get your podcasts — please listen, rate and subscribe. Presented by Gideon Rachman. Produced by Fiona Symon. Sound design is by Breen Turner. Follow Gideon on Bluesky or X @gideonrachman.bsky.social , @gideonrachman Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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