# The Quill & Sword | CAAF Chats Ep 68: United States v. Secord (C.A.A.F. 2025) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-quill-sword-5815850/the-quill-sword-caaf-chats-ep-68-united-states-v-secord-c-a-a-f-2025 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-quill-sword-5815850/the-quill-sword-caaf-chats-ep-68-united-states-v-secord-c-a-a-f-2025.md Podcast: [The Quill & Sword](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-quill-sword-5815850) Published: 2026-04-08T12:33:16+00:00 Episode link: https://www.dvidshub.net/podcast/download/87000/DOD_111615846.mp3 Audio file: https://www.dvidshub.net/podcast/download/87000/DOD_111615846.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-quill-sword-5815850/episodes/the-quill-sword-caaf-chats-ep-68-united-states-v-secord-c-a-a-f-2025 Duration seconds: 1341 ## Resource In this episode, we review the interpretation of possession, custody, or control under R.C.M. 701, where defense counsel requests access to the data within the seized phone of the accused that the government is unable to unlock. We clarify the intersection between discovery rules and the Fourth Amendment, discuss the distinction between seizure of an electronic device and the data contained within, and provide takeaways for the field. Learn more about The Quill & Sword series of podcasts by visiting our podcast page at https://tjaglcs.army.mil/thequillandsword. The Quill & Sword show includes featured episodes from across the JAGC, plus all episodes from our four separate shows: “Criminal Law Department Presents” (Criminal Law Department), “NSL Unscripted” (National Security Law Department), “The FAR and Beyond” (Contract & Fiscal Law Department) and “Hold My Reg” (Administrative & Civil Law Department). Connect with The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School by visiting our website at https://tjaglcs.army.mil/. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-quill-sword-5815850/episodes/the-quill-sword-caaf-chats-ep-68-united-states-v-secord-c-a-a-f-2025/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-quill-sword-5815850/the-quill-sword-caaf-chats-ep-68-united-states-v-secord-c-a-a-f-2025.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.