# The Leadership Mistake That Makes People Shut Down | Jonas Frydal

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Podcast: [The Public Speaking Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-public-speaking-podcast-6698688)
Published: 2026-06-10T14:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this SPEAKERx edition of The Public Speaking Podcast, we sit down with Jonas Frydal, leadership expert and bestselling author. He shares why leadership it's about creating environments where people feel safe enough to speak up, contribute ideas, make mistakes, and grow. The conversation explores the difference between management and leadership, why human connection matters more than ever in the age of AI, and how leaders can build stronger teams by focusing on people instead of processes. Jonas also takes us behind the scenes of his SPEAKERx Signature Talk, where he explores an unexpected idea: the opposite of tyranny is play. They also talk about: • How to build psychological safety inside teams • The challenge of turning years of leadership experience into a 10-minute Signature Talk • The role of self-leadership in personal and professional growth • What most leaders get wrong about influence and authority If you've ever managed a team, worked under a difficult leader, or wondered how great leaders create trust, this episode offers a fresh perspective on leadership, communication, and human connection. Do you want to watch Jonas’ full Signature Talk? Here’s the link to the video: https://youtu.be/Oc2n1SCWeD0?si=FwEHuPC6HTQ5WwE8 Website: frydal.se Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/jonasfrydal Newsletter: nyhetsbrev.frydal.se Follow us on social media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/headgain.co/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepublicspeakingchannel Website: https://headgain.com/ Join our community Free skool community: https://www.skool.com/beginner Paid skool community: https://www.skool.com/speak Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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