# What I learned from unbuilding products and systems in the Public Sector - Ayushi Roy (Product Leader)

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Podcast: [The Product Experience](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-product-experience-1156837)
Published: 2026-05-13T05:00:00+00:00
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In the private sector, product teams pick their customers, generate demand, and ship into something close to a green field. In the public sector, none of that holds. Ayushi Roy — Chief Program Officer at New America's New Practice Lab and a lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy School — joins Randy to unpack what changes when your user base is already sitting in front of you, your scrutiny is congressional, and the right answer is sometimes to delete ten systems rather than build an eleventh. Draw...

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