# What I learned from an industry pivot - Kate Kempe (Director of Product, International Baccalaureate)

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Podcast: [The Product Experience](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-product-experience-1156837)
Published: 2026-04-08T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kate Kempe made the leap from 13 years at Amazon — most recently leading Alexa's screened products — to head up product at the International Baccalaureate, an NGO with no established product function. In this episode, she talks through what that transition actually involved: finding focus during a job search through Phil Terry's Never Search Alone methodology, reconciling Amazon instincts with a slower-moving, mission-driven organisation, and learning to be interested rather than interesting ...

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