# How to build EQ as a Product Leader - Pippa Topp (CPO, giffgaff)

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Podcast: [The Product Experience](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-product-experience-1156837)
Published: 2026-04-01T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797429/episodes/18921687-how-to-build-eq-as-a-product-leader-pippa-topp-cpo-giffgaff.mp3
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Pippa Topp, Chief Product Officer at giffgaff, joins Lily and Randy to talk about emotional intelligence in product teams — what it is, how it develops, and why it matters for leadership. The conversation covers recognising defensiveness as an EQ signal, the conscious competence model, applying empathy inward as well as outward, and how to cultivate a culture of reflection across a product org. Pippa also shares her own journey from judgement to over-empathy to finding the balance, and makes ...

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