# EP. 504: Why Wargames Get Cyber Wrong

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Podcast: [The Proceedings Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-proceedings-podcast-743440)
Published: 2026-06-22T15:10:55+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Lieutenant Mary Racicot, U.S. Navy, joins the Proceedings Podcast to discuss why joint wargames may be training commanders to misunderstand cyber operations. Too often, exercises either leave cyber out entirely or treat cyber effects as instant, reliable tools that can be “sprinkled on” a plan.

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